The Egotist Interviews: Steve Whittier

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In the December 2007 issue of Factory Design Labs newsletter, they announce nine new hires. That’s nine hires in a single month, likely totaling more than any other agency in the region. If you turn your head upward and peer toward the highest rung on the agency’s creative totem pole, you’ll find VP Creative Director Steve Whittier and much of reason for the shop’s visionary uniqueness and recent explosiveness. We caught up with Steve on the eve of the New Denver Ad Club’s annual award show, for which Factory Design Labs is poised for performance.

Q: Can you tell us a bit about your background? We know you’ve been at some of the world’s top shops, including McCann Erickson, Leo Burnett, Lowe and Partners, Chiat\Day and Euro RSCG, winning some impressive hardware along the way. How did those shops influence your perspective?

A: Each job I look back on I can pick out small things that made an impact. I started out doing paste up, production work. That made me pay attention to craftsmanship. At McCann SF I worked with Clyde Baird, an old school Art Director from the 1960s NY ad scene. He taught me how light worked on a shoot and how to draw – and how you have to work something until it works. He was brilliant. At Scali/Lowe it was Sam Scali, Kevin McKeon, Al Kelly, Ty Monatague. They were all so calm. It was so laid back. I was freelance at Chiat and Euro and saw that the most talented people are just people. Leo Burnett, Kiev was all about gaining trust and remembering the art side of art directing. The staff was the most talented group of artists I’d ever seen. The writers were philosophy majors. They were so educated and smart.

Q: Give us some basic stats on your agency, Factory Labs.

A: Factory has about 70 people. The creative department is 16 as I write this. We have an agency structure – ACD’s, AD’s, Writers, etc… We promoted Andrew Price to a CD role this past year and he and I manage the department together. He has been here for about 7 years and has played a huge part in our success. We have all our engineering in-house and within the staff we have a total of 9 bands. We do the majority of the music for our work in-house. We can edit here, do motion, 3D. We design and build online games. Our studio people can design. Our Art Directors can do their own production work. We put a high priority on style and flavor. Billings I can’t disclose, but with The North Face win and the addition of Audi collateral it’s getting up there. Our clients? Online agency of record for Audi as well as collateral (new win), The North Face, Winter Park, Scarpa, Boa, Palmer Snowboards, Oakley, Adam Sandler, Sony Pictures, Universal Studios, Jump Mobile, Disney. We’ve done work for Foot Joy and Quiksilver, as well. The list is pretty great. We work for the kind of brands we use.

Q: Tell us about some of the work you’ve been doing recently for your high profile client, Audi USA. Can you give us some details about how the process works with them from concept to completion? Also, tell us how your interactive work lead Audi to name you their brand collateral agency of record.

A: We learn the clients’ business model. How they make money and how they’re evaluated. We understand their goals and how success is measured. Since we live the life of our brands’ customers, those two things together make us relevant. Relevance is key, to the customer and the client. We don’t look to awards for what’s in style with the industry. We look to great work and dissect why it’s great. We talk to athletes, we talk to each other. We do a brief, but I believe we do it from a different perspective. For Audi, we have a total of 30+ Audi’s amongst employees here, some of us two. We know the cars, and we respect that the competition makes great cars as well. The interactive work we’ve created works. It’s measurable and ever since we’ve won the business we’ve seen results. We know the tone of the brand because we drive them and understand why people like or dislike them. When the contract for the collateral business was up, they asked us to pitch it because of our connection to the cars, intimate knowledge and a proven track record online. Plus, we take a lot of pride in how we craft the work.

Q: One of the biggest jabs at Factory Labs we often hear is that much of your work is all style with no substance. Can you address that comment by talking about style and how it relates to concept in your mind?

A: Our customers are buying style. Who buys a snowboard jacket because they like the concept of the jacket and never look at it in the mirror? The problem with the style vs. concept opinion is that it assumes that there is no idea to style. We don’t want ads to look like ads, we want them to have the vibe that will connect with the consumer and give the brand a personality. How many One Show pencils has Burton won? Are the judges their audience? Is that the measure of a great piece of advertising? Do they even understand the audience? The Burton work is brilliant. It built an industry. So when we look at an idea, it better have style to it that is culturally relevant and inspires. We do enter award shows, we believe they bring value to our agency and our people, but that can’t be the measure of what makes you great. You can’t say you’ve “arrived” because you’ve done well in that area. The goal is to have a great idea and execute it right – in tone, style and relevance. It would be an irresponsible idea not to.

Q: From what we know of Factory Labs, it seems you look outward quite often beyond your staff to help create the best client solutions. Tell us about the collaborations you consider most precious to your success right now.

A: We look at ourselves honestly and ask the question whether our skills are in line with the culture of our clients and their consumers. Too many creatives, in my opinion, think because they can design they are the ones to do it all and their talent will make it good. We collaborate with artists and photographers that mean something to our consumers. As an example, we used Evan Hecox for Copper. I was in a snowboard shop and this kid asked me how I got Evan to work on the poster. The kid knew his style, he was familiar with his work for Chocolate Skateboards and knew his name. (My answer was I paid him). We’ve used N8 Van Dyke, Dave Kinsey from Black Market, Kris Frye from the 400, Embry Rucker brought credibility to the youth market for Brine because of his work with Nixon and Quiksilver. John Huet who shot ”The Soul of the Game” book for the Denver Nuggets project. We need to remember we are Art Directors and we direct who we need to make it right, not do it all ourselves to prove we can.

Q: The four pillars of Factory Labs are design, culture, technology and music. Design and technology are self-explanatory. Tell us how culture and music play into what you do.

A: Culture is what our clients come to Factory for. We know the culture of their brands. You won’t find anyone here working on a snowsport client that doesn’t ski or ride. Music is what our clients’ customers are into. Like I said, we have 9 bands represented throughout Factory. We started Beatport, now the world’s largest online retailer of dance music in the world. We launch hip hop soon. Jonas Temple [Factory’s founder] is a resident DJ at Vinyl. We owned a label at one point, too.

Q: What is some of the work you’ve done at Factory Labs that you’re most proud of?

A: It’s hard to pick out pieces. What I’m proud of is the consistency and everyone’s pride and commitment to give it all on everything. When I started here, Jonas (the founder of Factory and now Chairman as well as CEO of Beatport) kicked my ass over a BRC card and the design of it. He and I spent a whole day on that card. That taught me to craft. That piece changed how I design. It’s not in our portfolio however.

Q: What is your assessment of the current state of Denver’s ad and design scene?

A: I think we have some serious talent here. I feel a good energy, as well. I was an award show whore for a long time and that held me back. I think people should put aside recognition as a goal and put great work as the goal. Don’t try to be the next anything. Just do what you believe will work for the client with style and a great idea. What I don’t like is people claiming not to be a Denver agency. The moment you say that, you are that.

Q: Why do you think Denver has yet to achieve the creative hot bed status of similarly sized cities like Minneapolis and Portland? What do you think the agencies here can do to change that?

A: Quit worrying about it. It’s like trying to talk a girl into liking you. Do great work and send it out with some humility.

Q: What shop in town, other than yours, do you most admire and why?

A: Collective International. They are an in-house shop for brands like Airwalk, Vision and Sims. The work and execution are flawless. It’s not the kind of work that wins an Addy. It’s the kind of work that creates a brand.

Q: What are the top five places/things you go back to again and again for inspiration?

A: Magazines, a lot of them. I find it easy to explore design and ideas that way, I get distracted on the web and start watching YouTube or playing with the retirement calculators. Of course, if it’s when I’m working on an online project, I go online to see what’s going on. Bannerblog.com.au and design sites galore. I like Flickr for photography.

Q: What are the enemies of great creative ideas?

A: Forgetting who your audience is. Also justifying bad design by saying the work is conceptual. Formulaic solutions. I’m really disappointed with the work I see coming out of ad schools. It’s the same one copy line and a visual solution that’s clever and tricky. Is it responsible to give the same executional style to each of your clients?

Q: Describe your ideal client for us.

A: One that doesn’t want “an agency.” One that just wants to talk about what we’re going to do together to solve a problem and lets us show them what we’re thinking.

Q: Where do you hope to take Factory Labs in the next year? The next five?

A: We don’t want be huge in staff numbers. This market has proven it’s tough to find hundreds of people – you have to devote so much time to looking. We want the next wave of Factory people to produce great work. It’s their time. We have promoted some people lately and given them the reigns. As we say, we don’t want a “B” team. Just a handful of great clients that give us the opportunity to let our people shine.

Q: What do you want to tell everyone in Denver and far beyond who read all the way to the end of this interview?

A: Thank you. I am fortunate to work with really talented people I respect. All departments, all levels of experience. Every day I learn to look at things in a new way. Thank you Jonas, Tim, Jeff G, Trevor and Eloy – the best group to do this with. And of course, Jim Glynn.

Comments

  1. Andy Bosselman December 6, 2007

    Great interview; bravo.

    Great interview; bravo.

  2. Matt December 6, 2007

    “Quit worrying about it. It’s

    “Quit worrying about it. It’s like trying to talk a girl into liking you. Do great work and send it out with some humility.”

    Well said, Steve.

    Nice interview, Egotist. Love to see stuff like this.

  3. eric k December 6, 2007

    More of this kind of stuff

    More of this kind of stuff please. Proof the label “Denver agency” can be completely irrelevant.

  4. Proud to live on the plains December 7, 2007

    Wow. His response to our

    Wow. His response to our inferiority as a ‘creative hotbed’ city is all you people can comment on? That’s what you took away from this? The fact that the ‘Denver Agency’ stigma is irrelevant? I guess you’re still missing the point. With all the wisdom and solid advice contained herein, you’re still obsessed with the fact that you live in a cow town and you’re super stoked when someone says that it doesn’t matter. God help us. Get over it.

    This guy is a great creative leader and he’s slick as hell. But in my opinion the design coming out of Factory IS all style and no substance and to justify that by saying the style IS the substance is a cop out. Just own your niche. You make glossy eye candy and you’re great at it. Nothing wrong with that. Leave the cutting edge concepts and envelope pushing to the other guys.

  5. eric k December 7, 2007

    What I took away from it is,

    What I took away from it is, Steve’s company doesn’t apologize or answer to award show “whores” for what they do – the product works for their clients and the clients’ customers – the work connects with people, which builds a brand – and that is substantive.

    It’s his company’s success and well-earned confidence that, to me, makes the Denver agency label irrelevant – we on the whole, in my opinion, lack confidence, which in turn propagates the cow town image.

    But why am I explaining that to you when you apparently lack the confidence to give your name?

  6. What's in a name December 7, 2007

    What’s his/her name got to do

    What’s his/her name got to do with anything? The fact that this person, and most people on this board choose to remain anonymous is a function of working in a tiny industry in a tiny town. People don’t want to be judged for their opinions or have them used against them at a later date. But does this mean that they are any less relevant?

    Denverites are obsessed with our status as a second rate city. I see it all day long – this thread is a perfect example of it.

  7. Pa$$ion December 7, 2007

    Great interview, nice work

    Great interview, nice work Egotist.

    Yes, Denver has an inferiority complex. Always has.

  8. Mike King December 7, 2007

    Some of the best work today

    Some of the best work today is in the realm of “eye candy” and the visual. Look at Goodby, Wieden, 72andSunny, half of the agencies overseas. Don’t base industry standards in the company of One Show and CA annuals (which Factory is in this year, by the way). Award shows are subjective. Results aren’t. There’s more concept and substance to the work here than most realize.

  9. Lifter Baron December 7, 2007

    I think its great that people

    I think its great that people are giving Factory props and all, they do rad work… I just really hope to see people give appreciation to the individuals involved more than the agencies. I think that we are lacking in this area… Im hope this doesn’t sound hokey, but I think that this is something that could help our little village the most. People have feelings too… hahahah whatever though, show love where its needed i guess.

  10. sure December 7, 2007

    Nice thought Lifter. You’re

    Nice thought Lifter. You’re heart is in the right place. Lets hope you run your own studio some day.

  11. Oh Bother December 7, 2007

    Hey Eric, all the flowery

    Hey Eric, all the flowery language in the world wont change the fact that you singled out this one comment from a big interview to focus on and point out. You fancy yourself a bad ass, all of us do, and bad asses belong on the coasts. But, we’re too comfy, Denver is easy, low effort, small competition, and lets face it, we’re not going anywhere. So, how about we just get over it together and declare…. WE’RE NUMBER 12, WE’RE NUMBER 12 (11 if you don’t count Boulder).

    Great interview Egotist. You guys are having a real banner month!

  12. Patti Whittier December 7, 2007

    Happy Birthday Steve!

    Happy Birthday Steve!

  13. David Stone December 8, 2007

    Factory has substance. I

    Factory has substance. I don’t see anyone else out there selling a headline with the word “scrotum” in it.

    Thankfully, award show whore habits never die.

  14. Jessica December 8, 2007

    i’ve never seen an ad market

    i’ve never seen an ad market talk about and worry about itself more than this one. it’s amazing and annoying. coming from the big world of big agencies, i came here looking to escape that and everyone here just wants in that crowd – which means denver is missing out on something huge – being it’s own thing, starting something different, maybe even irreverent. the talent is certainly here (albeit way too insular, stop just swapping people and accounts already) and the desire is here but right now that desire seems misplaced…get over yourself and get to work!

  15. AppleZ December 8, 2007

    Screw the work. That picture.

    Screw the work. That picture. With the straw. Damn.

  16. Yes December 10, 2007

    Well said Jessica. Agree

    Well said Jessica. Agree completely. Denver does NOT have it’s own thing, it’s own style or vibe or culture or movement. We just sit around and talk about how we don’t suck. Which…. kinda makes us suck.

  17. creativemandenver December 10, 2007

    Well said Jessica….I’m

    Well said Jessica….I’m relatively new to Denver too and was soooo surprised about all the whining about the lack of respect Denver gets… sorry Denver, but until you guys stop trying to “talk the girl into liking you” we’ll just be the “Whiny Babies in Colorado”.

    Whittier said what I’ve been saying for years….“Quit worrying about it…Do great work and send it out with some humility.

    as for the interview…it’s always nice to hear about other people’s careers and how they are all challenged with some of the same problems we all face every day.

  18. jay December 10, 2007

    I’m curious to why Denver

    I’m curious to why Denver wants to be “its own thing”. I don’t really see any special “thing” coming out of Minneapolis, San Fran, Portland, Seattle, wherever. I just see a collection of great agencies doing great work.

    Denver is getting agencies into CA, One Show, graphis, you know the library. The 50 was a breakthrough in modern thinking, and a catalyst to show.

    Honestly, we’re doing fine. And we could all do better. Even other cities aren’t in their heyday. Consistency is key.

    “Whiny babies in Colorado?”

    Wow. Seriously?

  19. Razz December 10, 2007

    Even if it were true that

    Even if it were true that places like seattle and san fran lack their own style and identity (which is silly), when you visit those markets you’re not bombarded with a culture of “well, sure, we’re in a fly-over state, but we don’t suck! really we don’t!”. Industry people in Denver just aren’t comfortable in their own skin. It’s unsettling to us noobs and really boring.

  20. atmos December 10, 2007

    Between tda, Sukle and

    Between tda, Sukle and Factory (4 if you count crispin) Denver was represented in CA for two years in a row. I’d say we’re doing just fine.

  21. David Stone December 12, 2007

    Denver has been represented

    Denver has been represented in the books every year for a while now by someone at some agency here. A lot of cities can’t make that claim. It’s a great place to live and people do cool ads.

    If you want to whine about something whine about the pay.

  22. Razz December 12, 2007

    “It’s a great place to live

    “It’s a great place to live and people do cool ads”

    Although I personally disagree with the first part of your statement, the current discussion is more about why industry people in Denver feel that they always have to justify living here. Like “it’s not chicago, but WE HAVE A LOT OF SUN!” Or some crap. The inferiority complex that we all seem to have.

  23. eric k December 12, 2007

    I think, some jobs are

    I think, some jobs are “cooler” than others – like being a creative person – sounds cooler at a party than saying, “I’m an insurance adjuster.” And some places are “cooler” than others. Like L.A. Of course, in Colorado, it’s Aspen, Vail and Boulder – not Denver. So, take a cool person, add a not-as-cool town, voila – a little insecurity. I know, move to L.A., right? Or at least Boulder. Maybe Boulder could annex Denver and we’d all be instantly cooler.

  24. David Stone December 13, 2007

    Not gonna happen. Boulder’s

    Not gonna happen. Boulder’s not going to annex Denver. Longmont might give it a go but not Boulder.

    Please don’t mention Chicago. Seriously. Only Detroit creatives admire Chicago. Think London—a real city.

  25. AppleZ December 13, 2007

    Or Kiev, where Whittier

    Or Kiev, where Whittier worked and made it the Minneapolis of the Ukraine.

  26. ESPI December 13, 2007

    Ya’ll are a bunch of nerds.

    Ya’ll are a bunch of nerds. The goal is to do good work no matter where your at or where your from, and live the way you want to live…. right steve

  27. Lives in Boulder December 14, 2007

    Haha, creative is cool. Come

    Haha, creative is cool. Come on. Maybe when this all started it had some level of edginess to it but now, most people just laugh at us. Peter Pan syndrome and all that. We’re children playing with pictures and words. I personally like it that way but I think the perception of our profession to most people is that it’s kindof a joke. I think we’re only cool to people that wish they could do our jobs – people that wish they could play with pictures and words all day – rather than have a real job. We sell crap to people that don’t really need it, and didn’t know they wanted it until we told them. What’s cool about that? At least an insurance adjuster helps people out in a moment of need. At least he’s doing a service.

    Boulder is a bit better than Denver but the hippies, bums and college doubebags make it fairly annoying to live here. Trust me. It is nice living in the foothills and waking up to mountain scapes rather than living out on the dusty plains though. I dont know how you Denver people do it to be honest. I guess If you have to live in Colorado, Boulder is the place to be but it’s still pretty wack. Doesn’t matter to me though, I’ve lived in bigger cities and It’s not for me. Too much action for a small town boy like me.

  28. Randall December 14, 2007

    Interview: Good read. Doesn’t

    Interview: Good read. Doesn’t matter if we agree or disagree about any of it. It’s just one account of the way they do business. Style vs. substance. The CA scrotum ad.. I like it. But you can’t go wrong with balls in a headline.. reminds me of those ads way back when in One Show or D&AD.. the ones that said “Here’s my dead dog, now where’s my award”. Funny shit.

    If Factory produces eye candy. so be it. I will agree with Steve about target market relevance. Their ads build image for the brands. And while I’ve always thought of a lot of Winter Park ads very pretty with a headline stuck on ‘em, it doesn’t change the fact that they’re nice to look at. The Art Direction/Design to a lot of their work is very complex. The lines decent. I’d say, we’re starting to see some real diversity to their design.

    I see Factory as an involving entity. And I’m sure, we’ll see the work mature over time.

  29. Christopher Cox December 26, 2007

    Style, substance. Whatever.

    Style, substance. Whatever. This is a business. If your clients are happy and you are affecting their bottom line for the better and producing the desired results, you will be successful. Everything else is fluff to make ourselves happy. If you want to wrap your head around a concept, wrap your head around generating an impact for your client, not earning some pointless award. Factory is making their client’s happy. That’s why Factory is a growing business. If they have to change their strategy to keep their clients happy, they will. What they are doing right now though, seems to be working pretty damn well and Steve most certainly has something to do with that.

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